tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post8034359142725999762..comments2024-01-05T15:54:09.135-06:00Comments on RAsburry's Res: Don't Miss This Issues, Etc.Randy Asburryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01545983197990430420noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-56764956925627338262009-02-25T09:59:00.000-06:002009-02-25T09:59:00.000-06:00We have a pope in all but title.We have a pope<BR/> in all but title.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-10527031233148433932009-02-11T18:41:00.000-06:002009-02-11T18:41:00.000-06:00Does anybody else feel like these events are our o...Does anybody else feel like these events are our own little "reformation" happening right now?<BR/><BR/>How did it all come to this?<BR/><BR/>Kevin in IndianaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-42679258715862168882009-02-11T14:36:00.000-06:002009-02-11T14:36:00.000-06:00Silly and petty on its face, yet, but extremely de...Silly and petty on its face, yet, but extremely devious and downright evil in its method and its likely plan.<BR/>I imagine, as much as anything, they hope to break the bank of Wilken and Schwarz, since they haven't yet broken the spirit.<BR/>But this bank also has 'customers' throughout Lutherandom. Many of us do what we can to support the new Issues, Etc., and wouldn't consider re-routing those dimes and dollars back to Synod or any of KFUO's programming, were the BOD to succeed in bankrupting and thus silencing Issues, Etc.<BR/>They're just shooting themselves in their apparently very tender, tiny, timid feet.<BR/>SusanRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-50710223410762082952009-02-11T14:11:00.000-06:002009-02-11T14:11:00.000-06:00Fascinating. Now look who's threatening to sue! ...Fascinating. Now look who's threatening to sue! Isn't this the same bunch of synodocrats that were all outraged over a lawsuit a couple of years ago?WM Cwirlahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317197804776939257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-32939171368130887562009-02-11T12:18:00.000-06:002009-02-11T12:18:00.000-06:00Anastasia,You're exactly right: it's not really ab...Anastasia,<BR/><BR/>You're exactly right: it's not really about the name. It seems to me that the whole trademark issue, along with the threatened lawsuit, is really just another attempt to get Wilken and Schwarz to sign a gag order--something that they did not do and fully intend not to do in the future.<BR/><BR/>Helen,<BR/><BR/>I don't know all of the "legal beagle details," but I would guess that it's well beyond time for any severance package kind of details. However, it is very clear that LCMS, Inc. still wants to push the matter of a gag order with the ever-present threat of a lawsuit if they violate such a gag order. I believe that's what Pr. Wilken refers to when he says on the Open Mics episode that they don't want to give up their First or Seventh Amendment rights.<BR/><BR/>You also asked what Pres. Kieschnick thought would happen after Issues, Etc. was canceled. I can't speak for him or even guess his thoughts or motivations. But it does seem pretty clear from this trademark dispute that the push to silence Issues, Etc. is still alive and well, even though LCMS, Inc. no longer has any authority over the show; it clearly sacrificed such authority when it canceled the show last year. <BR/><BR/>To me it just seems very silly and petty. After all, LCMS Inc. did let the trademark on the name "Issues, Etc." lapse back in 1999, almost ten years ago. If they didn't care about it back then, why do they care about it all of a sudden? Clearly, as Anastasia says, there's something else at work here. <BR/><BR/>Though I do like Pr. Wilken's no nonsense approach to how this all could be settled:<BR/><BR/>LCMS, Inc.: Just drop this silly, petty challenge to the trademark and the threatened lawsuit against two Christian men! Save some money, that you really don't have, I'm sure, in the current economic times. Just allow this whole Issues, Etc. affair come to "a positive conclusion," as you said in the Reporter back in August 2008.Randy Asburryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01545983197990430420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-18668838276871682132009-02-11T11:53:00.000-06:002009-02-11T11:53:00.000-06:00If I understood things correctly, Tod and Jeff wer...If I understood things correctly, Tod and Jeff were forced to give up any severance or benefits that might have been due them, in order to preserve their freedom of speech.<BR/><BR/>Can they be <B>forced</B> to take that "package"...and<BR/><B>would they get it now?</B> :(<BR/><BR/>What on earth did GK think would happen to Issues Etc.? Did he expect them to subside into silence like so many individual confessional Pastors have had to do? <BR/>--helenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-73092666453246746992009-02-11T11:17:00.000-06:002009-02-11T11:17:00.000-06:00ISTM the answer to your "Why?" is contained in the...ISTM the answer to your "Why?" is contained in the proposed agreement. It contained a non-disparagement gag order, to be enforced by the radio show hosts giving up the right to jury trial in case of alleged breach of the agreement.<BR/><BR/>It's not about the name; that's just a way to get to the important thing, the non-disparagement bit.Anastasia Theodoridishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16092531121989260111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-52734135583508446522009-02-11T08:48:00.000-06:002009-02-11T08:48:00.000-06:00I wonder what plans the Board of Directors has for...I wonder what plans the Board of Directors has for the name, if any.<BR/>Maybe to share the gospel under that banner...?<BR/>Or maybe they just want to hide it under a bushel. No!<BR/>What we're seeing here is our own TARP II plan: Terrorize a Radio Program, Part Deux.<BR/>SusanRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-75523757844128287752009-02-10T17:43:00.000-06:002009-02-10T17:43:00.000-06:00I like your idea Father H. I was thinking they sh...I like your idea Father H. I was thinking they should change the name to "Kieschnick Has Issues, Etc.", but only if he can win "Issues" back in court first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8168622605417379346.post-15917533003212860932009-02-10T11:29:00.000-06:002009-02-10T11:29:00.000-06:00Why not change the name to Kishka, Etc.?Kishka is ...Why not change the name to <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kishka_%28food%29" REL="nofollow">Kishka</A>, Etc.?<BR/><BR/>Kishka is guts, full of real meat comprised of blood and grain.<BR/><BR/>And, it sounds like "Kieschnick, Etc." which should keep the LCMS, Inc. suits and legal beagles busy.Rev. 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